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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2007.02.11 18:39:00 -
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 Originally by: Calenth
Yeah, exactly. It ain't like BoB doesn't have a history of widely villifying whole alliances for the actions of a few members. In fact, that's pretty much been their entire history from day one ("one of your guys killed one of our frigates, so we're taking your whole region.")
So using that logic, we should be flaming your whole alliance for the actions of Firstname Lastname about a year ago?
You should be the last alliance to promote villifying thousands of people for the actions of one.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/02/2007 18:51:39
Originally by: Calenth
Edited by: Calenth on 11/02/2007 18:40:37
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Calenth
Yeah, exactly. It ain't like BoB doesn't have a history of widely villifying whole alliances for the actions of a few members. In fact, that's pretty much been their entire history from day one ("one of your guys killed one of our frigates, so we're taking your whole region.")
So using that logic, we should be flaming your whole alliance for the actions of Firstname Lastname about a year ago?
You should be the last alliance to promote villifying thousands of people for the actions of one.
:rolleyes:
I should've known better than to try to make a subtle point on this forum. I didn't say flaming whole alliances for the actions of a few was justified.
I said it was amusing that BoB members are suddenly discovering that, given their past history. Maybe one of the positive results of all this will be that the BoB membership finally learns a little humility.
Sorry for not getting your subtle point the first time.
I understand your point, and its sadly all too true. BoB's propaganda is almost solely based on mocking leaders like McCreedy and Cyvok; and now they're going to get it right back at them.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: invaderzim
It's possible that we've not seen an official bob response because they've been asked not to.
It could also be because BoB thinks it might be advantageous to wait until this flamefest dies down a little (it already has somewhat, IMO) before making their post, so their thread isn't instantly derailed to oblivion.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Originally by: Ben Derindar
It *was* dealt with at the time, therefore the current witchhunt lies somewhere between "unnecessary" and "misdirected".
/Ben
By dealt with, do you mean the part where they let t20 keep his character in BoB, even though all of the upper-management knew he was a dev, or the part where they let BoB keep all the spawned BPOs, that they knew he spawned for BoB?
I'm guessing that:
a) At the time BoB management did not know he was a dev.
b) CCP thought it was more important to cover up the situation than to deal with it, so instead of taking back the BPOs and admitting the character was a dev char, they didn't touch it.
CCP, as usual.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/02/2007 22:04:07
Originally by: merc999
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Honestly, what exactly are you claiming BoB have done wrong?
BoB? .. no only the BoB leadership
1. operated shared accounts, organised on an alliance level
(Cynonet) breach of EULA
There are at least 3 other alliances that do the same.
Originally by: merc999
3.Knowingly accepted BPO's from a Dev who obtained them by out of game mechanics- cheating
these are only what has been exposed, who knows what else may still be to come out
Wait, it was just said only one director knew, but now "the whole leadership knew"? 
Originally by: Wicked Child
Plain and simple sir Molle needs to be perma banned for releasing a players RL info. This is cut and dry bannable offense.
Its been done many times before by other people, who were not permabanned. However, he should be at least tempbanned. He needs to get the message that he's not allowed to break the rules, regardless of how important he is.
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Posted - 2007.02.11 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 11/02/2007 22:29:30
Originally by: merc999
Dark Shakiri
if you know of other alliances breaching the EULA have you got proof? and petitioned them?
If not, why not, ?
I only have seen proof of one that is breaching the EULA.
Because CCP has made EVE such that a cynonet is basically required for widespread capital ship movement, and AAA, RA, and BoB would be screwed equally without one.
Goonfleet broke the EULA brazenly with their portrait hack, but nobody even got tempbanned for that. CCP just doesn't care.
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Go to the website that cant be mentioned on here ( I guess you know which one) and see the discussions between Bob leadership, then tell me that the leadership did not know.
I can make up chatlogs too if I wanted to. There's no way to guarantee everything on a 3rd party website is perfectly true. If Kugustumen wanted you to, he could make you believe that D2 were MC alts just by posting it there.
Originally by: merc999
Sir Molle should recieve a Temp ban? why should he be different from one other user who has recieved a permanent ban for the same offence?
Are you referring to Kugustumen? I believe he was banned for the hacking, more than anything else.
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